Tuesday, November 04, 2008

I am sorry I missed this debate

between Christopher Hitchens and Douglas Wilson:

The discussion was meant to focus on morality and (this being the final event), it was clear that Wilson would not be content unless Hitchens left with the truth wrapped around his neck. For his part, Hitchens attempted to maintain that morality is innate in humans, an evolved feature in a higher primate.

Wilson challenged the authority of any such morality, saying that it could evolve along and morph along with any other biological feature, simultaneously pushing Hitchens on his admission that the desires to rape, pillage, and murder was equally "innate" in the species. He insisted that Hitchens explain how he (or any man) could determine the difference between a moral and immoral act if both were simply byproducts of evolution.

Hitchens slipped and shifted and evaded, but he was never let off the hook, and he could never successfully answer the question. The atheists in the audience grew antsy, chomping for their own shots at Wilson, and soon enough the floor was opened for questions. One after one, they attempted to do what Hitchens could not—show an authority for their morality, or show that they did not need no such authority—and one by one they failed.

The collegiality between the men continued, though both exchanged barbs more pointed and meaningful than humorous.

Hitchens is an intelligent man. But an intelligent man without the truth is no better than, well … a higher primate.

I made a similar point over at Megan McArdle's recently, concerning a disturbing date-rape scene on the Mad Men series on AMC:

I'm surprised that I did not see mentioned in the comments the prior interaction between fiance Greg and boss Roger, which was a catalyst to the date-rape. Greg, who earlier in the episode rebuffed Joan's advances at home, appears compelled to reestablish his sexual dominance in the office. Why the change of libido?

Roger escalates the tension of ego after being introduced to Greg, by telling Greg information about Joan that Greg doesn't know (that Joan dislikes French food). Greg is visibly thrown by this, and then leads Joan into the office.

Clearly, Joan is the powerless victim here. Unfortunately, the history of sexual tension in her relationship with Roger is a factor, which Roger selfishly exploits, and impacts Greg's descent into hell.

As much as this is about feminism, it's also about the masculine competitive drive taken to its logical destructively darwinian ends. Anyone who subscribes to natural (AND sexual) selection must concede this.

and

Natural selection is about genetic bias (towards survival); sexual selection is about mating bias (also towards survival). My point is that both genetic aggressiveness AND mating competition each will naturally promote males to step ahead of each other in consummation of intercourse, regardless of whether permission is signaled a priori.

I fail to see where I've gone off the reservation on this, as much as the outcome makes people squirm.

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